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Alien vs. Predator 2

Discussion in 'PlayOnLinux' started by Gizmo, Aug 24, 2013.

  1. Gizmo

    Gizmo Chief Site Administrator Staff Member

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    Yes, I know it's a DX8 game, so sue me. I remember that I enjoyed playing this game a lot, so when I found the discs mixed in with a bunch of stuff in my garage, I thought I'd give it a whirl.

    Sadly, it doesn't seem to work with POL and wine 1.6. I see that the last report was 1.5.25, so I'll give that a try.
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    Gizmo Chief Site Administrator Staff Member

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    Wine 1.5.31 almost works, as does 1.7. I can at least get far enough to start the first mission, but then it crashes with an error in lithtech.exe. 1.5.25 and 1.6 both crash with the same error as soon as I try to play the game.

    This is with the full retail CD. I'm going to try downloading the patch.
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    Gizmo Chief Site Administrator Staff Member

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    The 1.0.9.6 patch didn't fix it either.
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    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    Man, you are really picking the difficult ones :(
    AvP2 is hardly treaded ground, so you will be doing all of the troubleshooting yourself.

    Remember to always do some research on WineHQs before setting up the game.
    I couldn't find much help on WineHQs, but one person did report the same lithtech.exe error.

    Were you able to find a script for it or did you do a manual installation?

    Make sure to set Direct Draw Renderer to OpenGL in the configure/display settings.

    I have also seen games like Diablo II work without the CD in the drive if you copy certain files to the games installation folder. For example: Diablo II has an audio folder that can be copied to the game folder. Then the game won't look for the CD to play audio when it previously did.

    Feel free to post the entire debug output. Make sure to post it in the code tags
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    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    I also found this video of someone running it in Fedora 12: Aliens vs Predator 2
    Notice all of those "fixme" errors running in the background? Not good
    Don't give up though, if I can get Crysis running, anything is possible..
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    Hy Booman, I know this is an old thread but I only recently stumbled on this website, thanks to a guide of yours that was posted on reddit/r/linux_gaming but I wanted to let you know that the video you linked is about a different game.
    The youtube link shows Aliens vs Predator (2010) a much more recent (and graphically demanding) game, which by the way on my system runs flawlessly on Playonlinux.
  7. booman

    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    Oh thank you!
    I had no idea the AvP2010 was a different game from AvP 2.
    Strange that the older one is having problems, but the newer one works.
    Probably game engine limitations.
    Is AvP 2010 made with Unreal Engine?

    Thanks for the Reddit.com address. I'll be checking there more often. I had no idea there was such a large community there.
    Were you saying someone posted a link to one of our Guides?
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    Yes, it was your Crysis 2 guide.
    Unfortunately I don't own that game but I found other guides you created and I was able to install Bioshock, Fallout 3, Crysis, Far Cry 1 & 2 and Bulletstorm plus Need For Speed Most Wanted from a Youtube channel.
    So I take this opportunity to thank you for your great work!
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    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    Thank you for confirming that our Guides are actually working.
    What Distro are you running?

    I wasn't able to run Bulletstorm, but its still on my shelf. How did you get it to run?
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    Ubuntu 12.04 64bit (Gnome Shell)
    Intel Core i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz 8G RAM
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti
    I installed Bulletstorm using a Playonlinux script, the only one by the way which worked on my system; I was not successful trying the scripts for Call of Duty 4, Modern Warfare 2 & 3, Toca Race Driver 3 and a couple of Need for Speed.
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    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    Same experience with me too.
    I originally tried scripts and they didn't work.
    So I started messing with the manual installation and found that I had more success.
    I think the scripts originally worked when they were tested, but then Wine keeps changing, the libraries keep getting updated and games are updated.
    So a lot of those scripts get depreciated an no longer work. I don't blame the devs because it would be impossible to test every script with every Distro and every piece of hardware and configuration.
    So I found that if I created a guide that showed gamers how to manually install the game, it would teach them how to troubleshoot the inner workings of Wine and PlayOnLinux. This way, they can troubleshoot themselves or at least be able to tell us what they did with the game installation.

    I know there are more steps in a manual installation, but once you do a few, its pretty simple.
    The Devs do a good job keeping Wine and Libraries updated, but the scripts get neglected I'm afraid.

    Nice system by the way. I bet that GTX 650 Ti play just about anything
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    I have a question.

    How do you go about finding out what libraries are needed for a game? What its software requirements are?
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    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    Here are a few ways, but none of them are guaranteed:
    1. Google the System Requirements & dynamic link libraries for the game
    2. Search the game folder for "redist" or anything that could be extra. Look for d3dx, dotnet, vc-redist and other files that can represent Windows components to be installed.
    3. Install the game (even if it doesn't run) and most games will install dotnet, direct X and Visual C at the beginning or at first launch.
    4. Search WineHQ's for posts and tips on what libraries the installed with winetricks.
    5. Search the CD, DVD or download for typical libraries. ex: d3dx, dotnet, net framework, visual c, etc
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    Oh I have this game too, with the expansion. I may have to start looking a bit more through my old game discs. I also really enjoyed this game a lot. I might look into this later this week or next week. I would love getting this working again. I remember it being a lot better than the 2010 game.
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    booman Grand High Exalted Mystic Emperor of Linux Gaming Staff Member

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    Isn't that sad? Improve the graphics and the gameplay suffers... so common these days.
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    I play this game quite a lot. It had problems or regressions with later versions of Wine (Not tried it with any of the later version of Wine 1.7 etc) but it works very well out of the box with wine version 1.3.35.
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    ORLY? I'll give that a shot when I have a minute (sometime towards the end of the decade, I'm thinking).
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    Thanks bladeforce! Wine 1.3.35 with PlayOnLinux worked a treat!

    I set Wine to Win98 mode. I also set it to simulate a virtual desktop and to capture the mouse.

    I installed from CD (note, don't let it install DX8), then downloaded the 1.0.96 patch, copied it into the POL Wineprefix drive for AVP and ran it, then downloaded the nocd hack and copied it into the installation directory for AVP2.

    After that, ran the game and everything was great!

    The only real wrinkle was that, during the install, it had to switch from disk 1 to disk 2. Obviously, you have to mount the CD before it can be seen by anything, but with Fedora's Automount process under KDE, you don't actually mount the CD until you browse it with Dolphin (or you do something manual, like 'mount /dev/cdrom /media'. However, if the drive was automounted to start with, simply ejecting the CD from the drive's 'eject' button doesn't always clear the old mount point. Ejecting the disk from the desktop or within Dolphin cleans everything up.

    I had forgotten how bloody SCARY this game is. LOL
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    Happy I could help :)
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    A big thank you also from me.

    In my case I was forced to copy the contents of the CD on the hard disk.
    I also patched the game and applied the no-cd crack.

    I realized that it was not possible to change the screen resolution from the menu (the game crashed every time) but luckily I found that editing the autoexec.cfg file solved the problem.

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